Topic: Considering Moving to MiaCMS

I've always used Joomla, and am currently looking at MiaCMS. Will ALL Joomla extensions work with MiaCMS? Even ones that (for example) backup Joomla, or something like that? Does it use both Joomla 1.0 and 1.5 extensions?

Also, could anyone lay out some of the key differences/advantages/disadvantages between the two?

Re: Considering Moving to MiaCMS

Joomla and MiaCMS share the same parent codebase, Mambo.  Both projects forked from Mambo, but at different points in time.  Joomla forked from the 4.5 branch of Mambo and MiaCMS forked from 4.6 branch of Mambo.  Many of the Joomla core members helped write 4.5 version of Mambo and many of the MiaCMS core members helped write the 4.6 versions.

Older Joomla 1.0.x and Mambo 4.6.x extensions should work in MiaCMS without too much trouble.  In some cases minor code changes may be required.  Joomla 1.5 extensions will most require code changes to work in MiaCMS since they did a pretty major rewrite between the 1.0 and 1.5 series of their CMS.

To see what progress we've made since last year you should have a look at the release notes here - http://docs.miacms.org/wikka.php?wakka=ReleaseNotes

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Re: Considering Moving to MiaCMS

Hello. I've been lurking here for a while, but Joomla 1.5 kinda pushed me to finally join and start talking. smile

I currently am finishing a very complex site using Joomla 1.0. I started a while back, and this site has required several custom plugins for Community Builder, plus a fully custom coded extension to bridge Joomla with eFiction (which I finally got fully working only a short time ago).

Bottom line - I DO NOT have the time to convert ALL of that coding to Joomla 1.5. I tested my critical plugins on the new Joomla platform, but even in Legacy Mode they don't work properly (even though I have no coding errors, etc.). Yes, I'm that so-called "1%" of websites that just won't run well using Legacy Mode (though I suspect the real number is MUCH higher). It also doesn't help that documentation of the new system is STILL so relatively poor, especially given that Joomla is basically totally reprogrammed and we site owners really need to be able to learn new stuff quickly.

Since J!1.5 basically gave "the finger" to 1.0 site owners (sorry, don't mean to sound bitter), I just wanted to know what MiaCMS has to offer folks like me. I do know that MiaCMS 5.0 will use CakePHP (or at least that's what I read somewhere), so MVC is coming, but will there be a better migration pathway for older sites with plugins using prior architecture? Some of us don't have simple sites that use use com_content.

Thanks! cool

Re: Considering Moving to MiaCMS

Hi Brat,

Well, we cannot speak for J! 1.5. They did what they deemed right and honestly nothing actually wrong with it. I hear your pain around  compatibility issues. It doesn't matter if you scream your lungs out, the rationale is, "This is Open Source, and if you're able to do it yourself, awesome. Get it done. Otherwise, go with what's given to you. Joomla!, Drupal, Plone...You name it!"

The story on our side goes;

You know how we split up from Mambo for the sake of saving the code base going totally stale, and adding up a bunch of new features, re-architecting the Javascript layer and all the good stuff. For now, we feel the MiaCMS code base is much more modernized and in a much better shape. However, there is really no point on digging on the 10 year old code base (at certain points) and reviving bits and pieces of it version after version. A major overhaul is required. With Mambo, it was CakePHP. We ditched the CakePHP idea with MiaCMS and steered towards Aliro, which is a CMS framework itself. 
For starters, we know for a fact that a MiaCMS site can be converted into an Aliro site very easily. However, as far as the compatibility goes, this is really up to the 3rd party developers. If they want to provide support for different platforms, it's great. If not, the core development teams usually don't have much to do about those. With Aliro, our plan is to make sure that we cover as many of the necessary extensions as possible. Unfortunately, in terms of existing extensions' compatibility I can't say much about Aliro at this time.

Finally, for MiaCMS as of today, here is a list of compatible extensions.
http://docs.miacms.jp/doku.php?id=compatibility

For extension developers, MiaCMS is probably a better platform than the ditched J! 1.0.x.  Will the third party developers make sure that their extensions work on MiaCMS? I do not know the answer to that one. It's up to the PR machine and extension developers themselves.

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Re: Considering Moving to MiaCMS

Hi ocs and thanks for the response. I think I probably didn't communicate clearly, and for that I apologize.

I am intrigued by Aliro. I guess what I'm trying to ask really is, how difficult is it to convert Joomla 1.0 plugins to Aliro framework? Heck, I don't mind digging in myself, I just want to know what I should read, and, from your experience, what is the advantage of this framework for long-term stability of MiaCMS?

Just point me to what I should read and I'll take it from there. Again, thanks for your time, and I didn't mean to come off as whining (well... maybe just a little. big_smile)

Re: Considering Moving to MiaCMS

Yea weve been debating between joomla, wordpress and miacms

eCommerce is one of THE fastest growing sectors in business, and being able to sell your products or services online is a fantastic selling advantage.